Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift's no conflict confession has been interpreted by an expert.
The NFL player, who admitted on his New Heights podcast to guest George Clooney that he has never been in an argument with Swift, might not necessarily have a great relationship with the songstress.
Clooney insisted: “Travis, shall we ask you the same questions?”
Kelce laughed at the reference to his fiancée, Swift, claiming, “Well, it's only been two and a half years, and you're right. I haven't gotten into an argument. Never once.”
Now, relationship therapist Dr. Argie Allen-Wilson tells PEOPLE: “People don't like conflict, and so they think, ‘Okay, if we're not fighting, then this means we have a great relationship.’ But that's not necessarily so,” says Argie, founder and CEO of the private practice F.A.I.T.H. Inc. (Family and Individual Therapeutic Healing).
“The extent to a healthy relationship is not how well we do when things are great, but how well we do when things are not so great. Can you navigate the terrain when you disagree or when things are uncomfortable or when there's conflict?” she says. "Not fighting is not necessarily the gold standard. It's actually fair fighting that is a better gold standard.”
The expert said: "For some people, fighting means yelling and screaming and cursing … for other people, fighting can be very passive-aggressive”
“How else do you know how to traverse difficulty in a relationship if you never are tested or you're never testing yourself or the relationship?” Argie added.
“A year from now, life can turn on a dime. And I have seen couples who didn't survive because they didn't have the skills and the foundation to navigate difficult things.”